Replica, Clone, Tribute, or...Backdated(?)

"Goggles Pizzano" (gogglespizzano)
10/01/2020 at 15:24 • Filed to: my2cents

Replica - Pur Sang Bugatti Type 35. Every nut and bolt. Damn near 100% accurate.

Clone - 1970 AAR ‘Cuda. Take an entry level model (318 c.i.) and change everything necessary to make it damn near 100% accurate to a higher trim level.

Tribute - Like a clone but falls short, usually with regards to powerplant.

Backdated - Although it’s the first I’ve heard the term, I’d say the seller is using it incorrectly. It’s too vague. A backdated car to me would mean a clone created from a car much newer. Because of the inaccuracies with this car, I’d call it a tribute , or if need be, a tribute from a newer model . Rolls right off the tongue.

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DISCUSSION (24)

ihm96 > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:31

I fucking love those Bugattis and what that argentinian shop does. If I scored the lottery or somehow become mega wealthy that would be the first car I buy after a Hudson Hornet. Screw new cars, and screw a real one of a car that expensive. I’d buy that thing and drive it everywhere. Pure driving experience. Id probably also get a classic TVR and some sort of 50s/60s out there sports car (or replica)

flatisflat > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:35

I feel I see what you’re saying regarding the usage of the term ‘backdated’. Perhaps, in general, using a later ‘gen’ car to create any version of a prior model could be considered ‘backdating’?

Jb boin > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:36

I would call it a restomod as they use newer parts/technologies like the varioram or brakes from a 930 while giving it and old school look .

Tareim - V8 powered > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:39

I’d go for a R estomod ( backdated) as some things I wouldn’t want replicated from the original such as drum brakes or leaf spring suspension

Goggles Pizzano > Jb boin
10/01/2020 at 15:48

To me a restomod is a resto ration with mod ern parts for reliability and drive-ability . Usually but not always identifiable from 50ft with bigger wheels and tires.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:49

Unless they totally destroy the original look, then it’s just ruined.

Goggles Pizzano > flatisflat
10/01/2020 at 15:49

Food for thought.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Tareim - V8 powered
10/01/2020 at 15:50

I believe they will hide disks inside a fake drum, Leno has done that too.

Tripper > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:51

That bugatti reminds me of this, which I love.

Kinja'd!!!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1925-ford-model-t-speedster/

Mark Tucker > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 15:56

Backdating is all the rage in the MG world - take a ‘70s MGB, ditch the rubber bumpers and the single Z-S carb, lower the ride height, and bolt on chrome bumpers and twin SUs. The VIN tells the story, but the car looks and runs a whole lot better.

Goggles Pizzano > Tripper
10/01/2020 at 15:58

That is awesome. Just $15K! This or a L amborg hini Huracan? Which would get more attention/respect down on the street ?

C lassification : Custom one- off .

Tripper > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 16:00

Haha they didn’t sell. I would LOVE to build something like this

Goggles Pizzano > Mark Tucker
10/01/2020 at 16:05

Okay, to read that now, it makes sense. I’m now asking myself why this makes sense but the Porsche using the term backdating doesn’t. Is it because the MG was changed to a differe nt model year and the Porsche was changed to a different model year and also an extremely valuable icon?

Mark Tucker > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 16:21

Yeah, it’s a little different when you’re talking about a four-figure MG instead of a potentially six-figure Porsche...

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 16:32

Honestly, clones are some of the best values in the classic car market. Given the choice between a “ numbers matching small block automatic 68 Camaro” or a “ big block 4-speed Yenko clone” for the same money ... I’m choosing the Yenko clone all day everyday.

Goggles Pizzano > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
10/01/2020 at 16:40

Yes! T he joy of a very unique experience without the cost of buying for investment .

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 16:41

I could put the 2015-2017 GTI headlights and older infotainment in my car to backdate it?

Where do I sign up!?

dieseldub > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 18:01

Looking at a genuine Bugatti Typ 35 up close is a pretty fun endeavor. The supercharged straight 8 is cool and all, but some of the mechanical connections off the back of the engine to the firewall are just bizarre. Pretty sure there is a shaft coming off the back of the camshaft, and it drives a belt that goes to a second pulley in the firewall... And there’s also some connection of the distributor straight to inside the car to adjust the ignition timing on the fly.

They’re wild.

Goggles Pizzano > dieseldub
10/01/2020 at 18:46

Kinja'd!!!

superdave847 > Goggles Pizzano
10/01/2020 at 19:38

Backdate for Porsches usually refers to making a G-Body ( or in the case of Singer, the 964) look like the 901 body (63-73).

This one is both a backdate and a Tribute to the ‘73 RS.

In the 1980s, when the early cars were worthless, you could find long hoods made to look like G-bodies. (See here for one such victim: https://www.gullwingmotorcars.com/1971-porsche-911t-c-4057.htm )

superdave847 > Mark Tucker
10/01/2020 at 19:47

Agreed, the parts on that car individually are probably worth a $100k

superdave847 > flatisflat
10/01/2020 at 19:47

That’s exactly what it refers to among 911s

Tareim - V8 powered > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
10/02/2020 at 04:32

that can’t be good for brake temps surely

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Tareim - V8 powered
10/02/2020 at 13:29

I’m not sure, I do know Leno has some cars with fake drum coverings.